According to the latest rumors surfaced over the web, Canon is also working on an entry-level body without EVF, a similar camera to Nikon Z30 or Sony ZV-E10. The big reason behind removing EVF and making it more compact, to reach a wider audience at an affordable price. The expected core specs are
Canon R200 Rumored Specification
24MP sensor (same as we have seen in Canon R50 / Canon R10),
Elec shutter (No EFCS), and
4k 24,30p Recording (No 10BIT HDRPOQ mode)
No EVF
arrival date end of 2023 / Q1 of 2024 when the Canon R50 peak sales period is over.
Rumor coming from an unreliable source, Take it with a grain of salt, although we do have a slight possibility to see a Canon M200 replacement in Canon RF Mount.
According to the latest rumors coming out from the rumor mill, the Canon R5 Mark II camera is delayed and will not arrive in 2023. According to a Canon rumor source, Canon is planning for a massive firmware upgrade of Canon EOS R5 and in the firmware update we will see
Canon R5 Upcoming Firmware update
Lens breathing correction
Pre-shooting buffer
Removal of 30 minutes record limit
Vehicle tracking AF mode (bikes, trains & planes)
Additional tracking for more animals
And now the source of the rumor mill suggests since we are getting such a massive update in the Canon EOS R5, the Canon EOS R5 Mark II may get delayed till 2024 and is expected to arrive alongside the Canon EOS R1 camera in 2024.
This is the set of info we are getting from the rumor mill, but the story continues and we will try to find out the sources
Let’s dig up the source of the rumor
The Canon R5 Mark II camera is being delayed first told by Jan Wegener, according to his trusted sources and industry people he knows said that no Canon R5 mark II from Canon is coming in 2023, instead of that Canon will be focusing on realizing Telephoto zoom lenses for RF Mount. This makes more sense since nowadays bird/wildlife photographers are more preferring Sony system cameras and lenses instead of Canons due to their limited tele-zoom offerings.
But, why he is more reliable than CanonRumor itself, take a look at this video below
Blast from the past: Jan Wegener Canon R6 Mark II Spot on Prediction
We will post an update soon as we get any new set of information
TNC Take, Actually, I was expecting Canon R5 Mark II camera official announcement in Nov 2023 and before that, we were expecting its development announcement Aug-Sep 2023. But, it looks like we will have only have Nikon Z8 this year and Canon is out of the High MP Mirrorless race (at least for 2023)
The big question is when Canon will open its RF Mount like Sony, Nikon, and Fuji. Many people are still waiting OR many of them buy different cameras since RF Mount has few lenses.
Phototrend website asked the same question, Canon said
It is true that we are approached by many third-party manufacturers. We hear their demands. However, we have no direction or policy as such on this subject.
Naturally, I cannot share more details with you, but what I can say is that if this aligns with our strategy, we will take the necessary action on a case-by-case basis. I can’t tell you more.
But, the good news is Canon allowed the first third-party lens maker to have contact with its RF Lens mount. Cosina the Voigtlander 50mm f/1 is the first “third-party” lens to be able to communicate with the body via the RF mount.
However, there is no clarity. Canon still wants to keep everything under the curtains and as they said “we have no direction or policy as such on this subject” which also indicates a lack of transparency and no clear set of rules for third-party lens makers.
For, sure if we consider all the facts here NO third-party AF lenses for RF Mount coming anytime soon, do share your opinion about this.
Yes, the Canon R50 camera doesn’t have a fully mechanical shutter inside the camera, instead of that we have HYBRID and ELECTRONIC. Shutter
Just after the announcement of the Canon R50 camera, I am getting lots of msgs from my users about why we have only two options on the shutter menu of the camera that say
Elec. first curtain shutter
Electronic only
But, when you go the burst mode, you have two options: the first is a 12FPS mechanical, and the second is a 15fps electrical shutter.
Ideal Condition to remove Mechanical shutter from your camera
Condition 1: If the camera sensor has a GLOBAL SHUTTER without any lag, yes the camera doesn’t need any mechanical shutter.
Condition 2: When a Camera Maker is using a STACKED CMOS Sensor inside the camera as we have in Nikon Z9, Sony ALPHA A1, or Canon R3, OR EVEN a re-worked FSI (Front Side illuminated Sensor) like we have in Canon R6 Mark II and Canon R8.
Now, these are the ideal condition to remove MECHANICAL SHUTTER completely from your camera.
THE BIG BUT
If your camera uses a slow traditional FSI (Front Side illuminated Sensor) and even knowing those stuff you completely attempt to remove the Fully Mechanical Shutter system from your camera it’s not recommended.
Since Both the EFCS Shutter and the Fully Electronic Shutter have some limitations. Specifically when paired with slow-readout-based sensors.
BASIC RULES TO FOLLOW as a PHOTOGRAPHER
1. If the shutter speed drops below 1/100 turn EFCS ON to prevent the front mechanical curtain from affecting your sharpness.
2. If the shutter speed goes above 1/1000 and you shoot a shallow depth of field turn EFCS OFF. The reason is that EFCS affects badly defocus characteristics of lenses when going above 1/1000
If your shutter speed is in between 1/100 and 1/1000 it is your call what to use. In general, when you do not shoot shallow depth-of-field portraits EFCs turned on is a good thing. When you put on the 135/1.8 or the Batis lens or even the 55/1.8 EFCS MUST go if you want nice bokeh
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If the decision to remove the mechanical shutter from Canon R50 is correct?
Design-wise the new Canon R50 camera looks more similar to the Canon 200D Mark II instead of the Canon M50 II. Canon R50 camera features advanced AI AF mode same as we have seen in the Canon R3 camera, at the same time we do not have any 4k 30p crop, the Canon R50 uses its full sensor to create oversampled 4k 30p files. The camera can also shoot bursts up to 15fps with full-time AF/AE support. The Camera is powered by Canon’s latest powerful DIGIC X image processor, the camera features 4503 DPAF points for stills and 3713 DPAF points for Video. Canon R50 supports an AF sensitivity range of EV -4.0 to 20. The Canon R50 has an ISO range of 100-32000 (standard ISO Range) expandable upto to ISO 51200.
It will go on sale for around $679.99, body-only. A kit with the retractable RF-S 18-45mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM will sell for around $799.99, and a two-lens kit that adds a new 55-210mm F5.0-7.1 takes the recommended price up to $1029.99.
Finally, we have the full specification of the upcoming Canon R50 and Canon R8 cameras. Both of the specs look very promising at their price range have a look at the detailed set of specifications of both
Canon R50 Specification
-Effective 24.2-megapixel APS-C CMOS sensor (with low-pass filter)-No
sensor self-cleaning function-
DIGIC X
-EVF 0.39 inches, 2.36 million dots organic EL, 100% field of view, magnification 0.96 Double, eye point 22mm
– AF is dual pixel CMOS AF, still supports EV -4.0 to 20
– 651 AF points (auto) for still, 57 points for video
– Still AF points (manual) is 4503 points, movie is 3713 points
– AF supports EV – 4.0 to 20 for stills, EV – 3.5 to 20 for movies
– 384-segment metering, metering range from EV -2 to 20 for stills, EV 0 for movies From 20
– Subject recognition, people, animals (dogs, cats, birds), vehicles (motor sports cars, motorcycles), eye recognition
– ISO range 100-32000 (ISO 51200 with extension)
– Electronic front curtain and electronic shutter
– Electronic front curtain shutter speed 1/4000-30 seconds, electronic 1/8000-30 seconds
Synchronization electronic front curtain 1/250 seconds
No in-body image stabilization
3 inch monitor, 1.62 million Dot, touch panel
– Wi-Fi, Bluetooth
– USB Type-C terminal (USB2.0), HDMI Type D terminal Clean output compatible
– 3.5mm microphone terminal, 3.5mm headphone terminal
– Battery is LP-E17
– Optional battery grip is not available
– Startup time is 0.4 seconds
– Dimensions are 116.3mm x 85.5mm x 68.8mm
– Body only weighs 328g (375g with accessories)
-Effective 24.2-megapixel full-size CMOS sensor (with low-pass filter) -Self
-cleaning unit
-DIGIC X
-SD card slot x1 (UHS-II compatible)
-EVF 0.39 inch, 2.36 million-dot organic EL, field of view 100%, 0.7x magnification, 22mm eyepoint
– AF supports dual pixel CMOS AF, EV-6.5-21EV
– Subject recognition, people, animals (dogs, cats, birds, horses), vehicles (motorsports cars, motorcycles) , airplane, train)
– Eye recognition (auto, right eye priority, left eye priority)
– 384 split metering, metering range from EV -3 to 20 for still, EV -1 to 20 for video
– ISO range from 100 to 102400 (extended ISO50, 204800)
– Electronic front curtain and electronic
shutter – Shutter speed electronic front curtain 1/4000-30 seconds, electronic 1/8000-30 seconds (Tv or M mode 1/16000 seconds)
– Synchro is 1/200 second with an electronic front curtain
– Video can be recorded for 30 minutes at 4K UHD 59.94 fps, 2 hours at 4K UHD 29.97 fps, and 20 minutes at full HD 179.82 fps
– Time-lapse function
– Monitor is a 3-inch LCD with 1.62 million dots, Touch panel
– Wi-Fi, Bluetooth
– USB Type-C terminal (USB3.2 Gen2), HDMI terminal (Type D) Clean HDMI output possible
– 3.5mm microphone terminal, 3.5mm headphone terminal
– Battery LP-E17
– Startup time is 0.4 seconds
– Size 132.5mm x 86.1mm x 70.0mm
– Weight 461g (including battery and SD card), 414g (body only)
The Canon R8 features a 24mp CMOS sensor as we have seen in the Canon R6 Mark II camera, and is paired a up with DIGIC X processor for exceptional image quality and processing speed. The latest generation of Its Dual Pixel CMOS AF II sensor provides fast and accurate autofocus, loaded with NEW AF algorithms straight coming out from Canon R3, and features advanced subject detection mode which allows you to recognize and track various subjects including aircraft, trains, cars, and animals. The only thing you will miss inside the Canon R8 camera is the Sensor shift image stabilization system. So, this step is taken by Canon to not only cut down the production line cost of the Canon R8 Camera but also to save up the sales of the Canon R6 Mark II camera.
The Canon R8 camera can shoot up to 40 frames per second with full-time AF and AE support and support, the same as we have seen in the Canon R6 Mark II. As we all know a few days ago Panasonic announced the Panasonic S5 Mark II camera, the camera is able to shoot 30FPS of continuous bursts, and it was the only camera in the full frame category to touch that speed under $2000 price range. Now, to compete it Canon R8 arrived with 40FPS bursts to dominate the range again. But, at the same time, the Canon R8 doesn’t have the IBIS support that Panasonic S5 Mark II or S5X II has. If ur a cinematographer and work with gimbals then actually you won’t miss the Canon IBIS system, but if ur a vlogger and u do handheld vlogs then for sure Canon R8 isn’t that helpful to give you stabilize footage as of Canon R6 Mark II or Panasonic S5 Mark II camera. Now, for photographers out there, sorry but I have to say you have no other option left ur you guys, if you shoot 70% to 80% of your content handheld, you have to go with a Canon R6 Mark II camera, or if you love to buy Canon R8 then remember the 2X shutter speed rule to combat camera shake and get OIS lenses.
The Canon R8 is also able to record 4K 60fps video via 6K oversampling method (full sensor readout), and FullHD 180fps Slo-mo recording, convenient for shooting cinematic frames. Canon R8 is also loaded with the Canon’s C-Log3 feature, so if ur a professional cinematographer and love to grade your videos to extract the maximum possible out from a given scene. Then undoubtedly the Canon R8 camera is made for you. So, at this price range of under $2000 cameras, we are getting rock-solid core specifications inside, whether you are a videographer, cinematographer, wedding shooter, or sports shooter the Canon R8 camera will going to impress you a lot, is a perfect option if you are looking for a perfect full frame mirrorless camera body under $2000 price range. If you can spend more u have its bigger brother the Canon R6 Mark II with 7 to 8 stops of IBIS.
Don’t get confused with the vari-angle monitor, the new Canon R8 camera features a Variance Monitor specifically helpful for cinematographers and professional content creators The USB-C port allows for direct streaming, and the camera features a new form factor to impress a new consumer base. The camera weighs 461g and comes with a kit lens, the RF24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM. The body is priced at $1499 and the lens kit is at $1699.
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